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2:30:039/16/25

Trump SUES New York Times, Candace Owens vs Bill Ackman & Pam Bondi's Hate Speech Crackdown | PBD

TLDR

The podcast extensively discusses the assassination of Charlie Kirk, examining whether it was a lone wolf act or a coordinated attack, while also delving into the public's reaction, the rise of political violence, and controversy surrounding Candace Owens's comments about the event.

Takeways

Charlie Kirk's assassination sparked massive support for Turning Point USA, revealing his significant influence among youth.

A YouGov poll highlights a sharp ideological divide, with a higher propensity for political violence and animosity on the far-left.

Candace Owens's unverified claims about Bill Ackman and Israel are challenged, with strong evidence from others refuting her narrative.

The hosts and guests explore the assassination of Charlie Kirk, debating whether it was a planned event or the act of a radicalized individual, highlighting the significant outpouring of support for Turning Point USA and a perceived rise in political violence. There is a deep dive into the alleged text messages of the shooter and the controversial statements by public figures, particularly Candace Owens, who is criticized for her handling of Kirk's death and claims about a meeting involving Bill Ackman and Benjamin Netanyahu.

Charlie Kirk's Assassination & Impact

00:00:00 The podcast opens with Eric Bowling sharing his experience of announcing Charlie Kirk's death live on air, noting that he had seen graphic videos suggesting Kirk died before reaching an ambulance. The hosts emphasize the profound impact of Kirk's assassination, likening it to other historic moments. They highlight an unprecedented surge of support for Turning Point USA, with 37,000 new applications for chapters and a significant fundraising effort of $100,000 within 24 hours, indicating a massive, unexpected reach and a powerful legacy for Kirk and his organization, especially among young people.

Political Violence & Ideological Divide

00:08:08 A YouGov poll is presented, revealing a stark contrast in attitudes towards political violence and joy over opponents' deaths between liberals and conservatives. The data shows liberals are six to eight times more likely to find it acceptable to feel joy at a political opponent's death or justify violence. This perceived ideological divide fuels a discussion about the left being the 'party of violence,' with speakers attributing increased radicalization to inflammatory rhetoric from prominent liberal figures and media outlets. Concerns are raised about the mental state of individuals undergoing gender transition therapies, linking them to potentially impaired judgment and violence, with specific reference to the alleged shooter's transgender partner.

Conspiracy Theories & Media Narratives

01:06:12 The discussion delves into various conspiracy theories surrounding Kirk's death, including the possibility of a coordinated assassination rather than a lone wolf attack. The hosts analyze the alleged text messages between the shooter, Tyler Robinson, and his transgender roommate, suggesting they appear to be a 'choreographed script' to establish motive and protect the roommate. The media's portrayal of the event is also scrutinized, with one ABC journalist, Matt Gutman, heavily criticized for describing the shooter's texts as a 'love story,' highlighting a perceived bias and a disregard for the victim and the severity of the crime.

Candace Owens & Israel Controversy

01:19:30 Candace Owens is heavily criticized for her public statements regarding an alleged 'intervention' Bill Ackman staged for Charlie Kirk over his stance on Israel, with threats reportedly made and an offer of $150 million from Benjamin Netanyahu to Turning Point USA. Both Bill Ackman and Kirk's executive producer, Andrew Kulovit, deny Owens's claims, with Ackman providing detailed receipts of his cordial interactions with Kirk. The hosts and guests accuse Owens of being an opportunist, leveraging Kirk's death for 'eyeballs and clout,' and having a 'blind rage' against Israel, questioning her credibility and the timing of her unsubstantiated allegations, especially given her strained past relationships with other conservative figures.

Cash Patel & Epstein Files

02:09:00 Cash Patel's confrontational exchange with Adam Schiff and his testimony regarding the Jeffrey Epstein files are examined. Patel fiercely denounces Schiff as a 'liar' and a 'political buffoon,' accusing him of weaponizing intelligence and doing 'squat' on Epstein during previous administrations. However, Patel's subsequent statement to Senator Kennedy, asserting there's 'no credible information' that Epstein trafficked young women to anyone other than himself, draws skepticism from the hosts. They suggest this position, potentially influenced by higher political directives, is fishy and serves to protect powerful individuals, hinting at a wider cover-up to avoid blackmail, despite the Trump administration's claims of releasing more documents.