“I Would Criminalise What You Do” - Louise Perry & Bonnie Blue Debate

Louise Perry and Bonnie Blue debate the societal implications of sexual liberation and the free market, with Perry advocating for criminalizing most of Blue's activities due to perceived societal costs, while Blue highlights her unique ability to navigate her profession without negative personal impact.

• Sexual liberation and free markets may lead to activities with significant societal costs.

• Bonnie Blue's success in sex work is an outlier, not a representative or replicable path for most.

• Debate highlights the tension between individual liberty and potential broader societal harm from industries like sex work and porn.

The discussion explores whether one can condemn Bonnie Blue's sex work given a world that favors sexual liberation and free markets. Louise Perry argues that such a stance is inconsistent without acknowledging the serious costs of these values. Bonnie Blue, while open to discussion, maintains that her profession is acceptable and not damaging, recognizing that her experience is not representative for most.

Critique of Sexual Liberation

• 00:00:06 Louise Perry contends that condemning Bonnie Blue's work is illogical if one generally supports sexual liberation and unrestricted free markets. Perry argues that Bonnie Blue has simply pursued these principles to their logical conclusion. However, Perry herself believes sexual liberation and an unrestrained free market have significant societal costs, making her position consistent in her critique.

The Case for Criminalization

• 00:02:05 Louise Perry asserts that if she had her way, most of Bonnie Blue's activities would be criminalized, which would result in a personal financial cost for Blue. Perry also considers the argument that access to porn might reduce male sexual aggression or demand for prostitution, but notes she has not seen this case strongly made. She would only accept it as 'the better of bad options' if it demonstrably reduced sexual violence.

Unrealistic Expectations and The 'Fake Natties' Analogy

• 00:05:11 The discussion introduces the 'fake natties' analogy from the fitness industry, where individuals achieve admirable physiques with performance-enhancing drugs but claim natural methods, creating unrealistic expectations and feelings of inferiority for others. Bonnie Blue is compared to a 'testosterone hyper-responder' of the sex world, an outlier whose extreme success and lack of negative consequences are not representative, potentially misleading others who might attempt to emulate her path and face significant personal costs.

Bonnie Blue's Unique Experience

• 00:08:58 Bonnie Blue acknowledges that her ability to navigate her profession without struggle, emotional distress, or family issues is not normal. She admits that while she perceives herself as a normal person, her way of managing her life and career is indeed unique and 'inhuman' in its lack of negative impact. Blue openly states she cannot offer tips for success because her experience has been an 'easy ride,' a stark contrast to what most people would likely face.